-By Keping Qiu

'Globalization of Talent' panel at the U.S.-China Film Summit (photo courtesy of The Asia Society)
Taking advantage of activity surrounding the Chinese American Film
Festival (Oct. 25-Nov. 30) and American Film Market (Oct. 31-Nov.
7), Asia Society Southern California staged its third U.S.-China
Film Summit at UCLA Covel Commons on Oct. 30, with three panels of
U.S. and Chinese film entrepreneurs in co-production, globalization
of talent and investments. The reportedly sold-out event offered a
unique opportunity to sense what is going on in the China film
market.
The Sticking Point
The first panel, “Year in Review: Key Players in U.S.-China
Co-production,” was moderated by Jonathan S. Landreth, managing
editor of
ChinaFile, Center on U.S.-China Relations, The
Asia Society, with panelists William Feng, general manager and
chief representative, MPA-China, and Leon Gao, president, EntGroup,
"one of a handful organizations dedicated to measuring the growth
of the market.” The absent Zhang Xun, president of China Film
Co-production, attended via her video greeting.
Before moving back to the U.S. one mouth ago, Landreth lived in
Beijing for eight years as " a lucky business reporter" writing
about "China discovering Hollywood—and Hollywood discovering that
it can't live without China. Seven of those years for
The
Hollywood Reporter, then s
The Wall Street Journal, The
New York Times and
The Los Angeles Times as editors woke
up to how important China was becoming to Hollywood. Each January,
annual box-office grosses grew more than 25%.”
The moderator's narrative highlighted the milestones in U.S.-China
relations pertaining to film. Landreth rewound to a moment in 2001
when China was about join the WTO: The greatest sticking point
between Beijing and Washington wasn't the terms relating to grain
or heavy machinery or high-tech components, but how many Hollywood
movies would be allowed into China each year, as confirmed by two
lead trade negotiators, one from the U.S. and one from China. "Why?
Because movies sell an image of the way we live, who we are and how
we do business. Movies are America's greatest selling tool. For the
next 11 years, only 20 imported films were allowed to recoup a
significant share of their ticket sales. Most were from
Hollywood.”
Fast forward to February of this year, when "the unthinkable
happened," Landreth observed. Xi Jinping, China's next president,
was in Hollywood to break the news, along with DreamWorks
Animation’s Jeffrey Katzenberg, the man behind the
Kung Fu
Panda movies, and U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden. They
announced three major developments:
1) China would raise the number of imported films allowed to share
a piece of their sales to 34 each year, up from the previous limit
of 20 films.
2) China would raise the percentage of sales that would flow back
to copyright holders to 25%, up from the previous average of
15%.
3) China would welcome DreamWorks to Shanghai to build a studio
with three state-run media investment funds, so that Katzenberg and
his new Chinese friends could work together to co-produce
Kung
Fu Panda 3 in China and begin to transfer some of the
time-tested expertise that has made Hollywood executives the
greatest salesmen of the American dream for the last 100
years.
Han Sanping, chairman of China Film Group (China's film monopoly
importer), would receive the 2012 China Visionary of the Year
Award, and Lewis Coleman, president and CFO of DreamWorks
Animation, would accept the 2012 U.S. Visionary of the Year Award
later in the day at the U.S.-China Film Summit gala dinner.
Landreth credited Han, "without whom none of these developments
would be possible," and called him “the 21st-century incarnation of
Louis B. Meyer, Darryl Zanuck and Harvey Weinstein combined...with
Chinese characteristics."
Landreth then asked: Who will be the next independent distributors,
other than China Film Group? "This will be especially important for
those studios which were served a letter of inquiry this spring by
the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission asking that they make
transparent their business dealings in China and dealings with
China Film Group." This is a question even Han's colleagues thought
he might be facing before the press in the U.S. Fortunately, Han
did not have to face tough questions that night, since the press
was not invited to the gala dinner.
Landreth went on to emphasize the positive. "China wants movies of
its own that will tell the world about the Chinese and the Chinese
dream, whatever that may turn out to be. I, for one, encourage the
pursuit. Chinese movies that suffered effects of strong censorship
just plain bored me and almost everybody I know, both Chinese and
expat. Chinese movies that reflect independent voices helped make
my life in China exciting.”
Landreth posed more questions for his panel and audience, most not
expected to be answered by the end of the Summit: Do co-productions
make sense? Will Hollywood filmmakers submit their work to China's
censors? Will China manage to make films that can attract overseas
audiences?
After viewing a video of the gala dinner at Asia Society, we can
report that the message from Han was upbeat. Han said that the
rapid growth of the Chinese film market is even exceeding his own
expectations, with box-office gross up 40% from the same period
last year. He predicted that China would be a large film production
county, and also a large film consuming country. Things after the
highly anticipated 18th National Congress of the Party can only be
better, and can only be more open.
Unfiltered Advice
"Globalization of Talent" was the second panel, moderated by
Stephen Saltzman, partner at Loeb & Loeb, and Janet Yang, film
producer and cultural ambassador.
The most candid and colorful panelist was Pang Hong of Kylin
Network (Beijing) Movie & Culture Media Co. and producer for
Ning Xia Film Studio, best known for his
Painted Skin
movies.
Pang shocked the audience by declaring that Gong Li (star of
Raise of Red Lantern) is “outdated” because of her age,
adding Americans’ most admired and iconic Asian names like Chow
Yun-fat, Jackie Chan, even Jet Li, to that list. The Chinese market
is a youth market, he explained. "When Painted Skin released in
2008, I went out and did my own investigation. By then, the average
age of the Chinese film audience was 23.6; when my
Painted Skin
2 was in theatres this year, the Chinese audience's average age
already lowered to 21.3. They love young actors and actresses. I
used Zhou Xun, Chen Kun and Donnie Yen for
Painted Skin 1,
but for
Painted Skin 2 I no longer used Donnie Yen. Instead,
I added new elements, I added Yang Min, Feng Shaofeng. It was my
judgment according to the market.”
Both Yang and Pang echoed, "The market is very cruel." Pang
continued, “Of course, Chinese-American cooperation is quite
different, but we want to honestly inform our American friends
about the Chinese market."
Having earned the title "King of Box Office for July" for his
movie, Pang has indeed something to say about the market. The
producer told the audience that he started humble and worked all
the way up. Coming from the state-owned film studio Ningxia, he
understands film censorship and policy. “My
Painted Skin 2
broke 15 Chinese box-office records and became the highest
box-office film of all time. I only serve two people: my investors
and my audience.” The audience applauded.
According to data from EntGroup and
China Film News, action
fantasy
Painted Skin 2 earned over 720 million yuan (roughly
$115 million) in the first month after its June 28 opening in
China. However, like an elephant in the room, it's hardly a secret
that in China July and August are designated as "domestic film
protection months.” That means that foreign movies are not allowed
to be programmed and screened in theatres during that period. This
is not a business decision made by theatre owners, but by a state
agency. The reality in China is that a movie theatre owner or a
cinema chain is able to program any domestic films on their own
schedule, but for foreign films, programming is subject to approval
and ultimately controlled by the State Administration of Radio,
Film and Television. Although the practice was relaxed after Sept.
1, films like
The Dark Knight Rises, The Amazing Spider-Man
and
Prometheus were dumped in the same post-summer slot,
forcing these Hollywood blockbusters to cannibalize one another at
the box office. The Chinese audience was not necessarily going to
see the protected movies during the summer months, fed up with
watching similar action movies. Ultimately they chose one, but not
two or three to watch. It is not hard to surmise that had Hollywood
movies been allowed to screen in the month of July, the box office
of Pang's movie would have been lower, though still decent.
Here again, the sticking point. As the number of imported movies
entering into China nearly doubles, having them disappear from the
screen during the two most profitable months makes things a
wash.
As Tom McLain, chairman of Asia Society Southern California,
declared in his opening remarks, "Hollywood and China are a perfect
match, but not an easy marriage."
Pang declared that his next step is cooperation with Americans.
Although the China market is getting bigger and bigger, Chinese
film production quality is still in its beginning stages, "a very,
very low level" compared to Hollywood productions which represents
the peak of world quality. Pang said he was eager to learn American
technology and standardized industry procedures, as well to
understand American laws, co-production procedures, international
marketing and production management. Step by step, then we can
begin to have real cooperation, he declared.
Pang also touted his next small China-U.S. co-production with a
budget of "only $6 million." 60% in English and 40% in Chinese,
offering Chinese gourmet food and beautiful women.
Pang alarmed the audience and the moderators' American
sensibilities by attributing the fast-developing Chinese film
market mainly to piracy of American movies. "The youth watched a
lot of pirated Hollywood DVDs, and saw even more movies after China
joined the WTO. Therefore, they are very familiar with American
stars…. I always tell people in China that the Chinese audience is
growing up watching Hollywood movies, nurtured by Hollywood sound
and light, action and special effects. You can choose to call it
'nurturing' (the nice word), or 'polluting’ (the bad word). He or
she is already used to such production quality and value, special
effects, an epic sense, and suddenly you make a Chinese movie—how
possible is it to have good box office? No matter how he looks at
it, he would still feel it is a country movie, a provincial
movie."
Pang believes there are ways to merge Chinese A-list talent with
American talent by choosing the right roles and the right stories
for them. While Chinese A-listers are willing to take smaller parts
to work with Hollywood, he encourages American film professionals
to go to China, but earning Chinese yuan rather than American
dollars. "Together, we collaborate and make money everywhere in the
world. "
Also on the panel were Larry Galper of Creative Artists Agency;
Andrew Ooi, president, Echelon Talent Management, and David Unger,
VP, International Creative Management.
New Faces of Investors
The third panel, “Investments in U.S.-China Co-productions: Meet
the Chinese Investors," was moderated by Bennett Pozil, executive
VP, East West Bank, and Peter Shiao, CEO of Orb Media Group. The
panel included six Chinese investors—three women, Liu Yuan,
co-chairman, China Mainstream Media NFC; Zhao Yifang, president,
Huace Media, and Ivy Zhong, vice chairman, Galloping Horse, and
three men, Jeff Lin, managing director, Strategic Bang Group; Zhang
Zhao, CEO, LeVision Pictures, and Wang Lifeng, partner, Wuxi Jinyu
Investment Management Corp. Most of them are bilingual. Each
investor had only three minutes to tell about who they are and what
they do. The panel agreed to let the ladies speak first.
Zhong told the audience that Galloping Horse is a very big film
company in China, with many Hollywood collaborations. "We read more
Hollywood co-production scripts than Chinese local scripts. We are
good at finance. That is why we were able to buy Digital Domain
[the visual-effects company co-founded by James Cameron] within
such a short period of time. We believe Chinese special effects are
the weakest link. With increasing demand for special effects in
film production—for instance, Ang Lee's
Life of Pi was 70%
special effects—15 of the 20 highest box-office grossers [utilized]
Digital Domain. Now we are able to use Digital Domain to invest in
co-production.”
As a contrast, Huace's model is different, as a publicly traded
company in China. It produces 600 hours of TV drama series a year.
In terms of quantity and quality, Zhao Yifang said, "We are
considered number one in China.” The company is looking for
international co-productions of TV drama series, such as Chinese
stories, and productions with multi-language versions. They are
also interested in getting into film production, even developing
their own cinema chain. Added Zhao, with Zejiang provincial
government support and SARFT's policy support, the first
International Film and TV Culture Industrial Park has been
approved.
Zhang Zhao of LeVision Pictures was one of the producers of the hit
The Expendables 2. Educated in New York, he was the only
producer/investor among the panel expressing interest in producing
independent films.
Closing words
"When bees are in the process of seeking honey, what happens?
Pollination happens," Peter Shiao declared, explaining the
inspiration for the U.S.-China Film Summit. "When people seek to
make films, they make culture, and culture influences people. In
order to succeed in Hollywood and China, the hottest place on
Earth, they have to cross many borders, overcome language barriers,
political barriers, logistic barriers, regulatory barriers, a lot
of time zones, a lot of sleepless nights...”
Keping Qiu may be reached at kepingqiu@gmail.com.
Cultural exchange: U.S.-China Summit ponders future of co-productions
Nov 15, 2012
-By Keping Qiu
Taking advantage of activity surrounding the Chinese American Film Festival (Oct. 25-Nov. 30) and American Film Market (Oct. 31-Nov. 7), Asia Society Southern California staged its third U.S.-China Film Summit at UCLA Covel Commons on Oct. 30, with three panels of U.S. and Chinese film entrepreneurs in co-production, globalization of talent and investments. The reportedly sold-out event offered a unique opportunity to sense what is going on in the China film market.
The Sticking Point
The first panel, “Year in Review: Key Players in U.S.-China Co-production,” was moderated by Jonathan S. Landreth, managing editor of
ChinaFile, Center on U.S.-China Relations, The Asia Society, with panelists William Feng, general manager and chief representative, MPA-China, and Leon Gao, president, EntGroup, "one of a handful organizations dedicated to measuring the growth of the market.” The absent Zhang Xun, president of China Film Co-production, attended via her video greeting.
Before moving back to the U.S. one mouth ago, Landreth lived in Beijing for eight years as " a lucky business reporter" writing about "China discovering Hollywood—and Hollywood discovering that it can't live without China. Seven of those years for
The Hollywood Reporter, then
s
The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times and
The Los Angeles Times as editors woke up to how important China was becoming to Hollywood. Each January, annual box-office grosses grew more than 25%.”
The moderator's narrative highlighted the milestones in U.S.-China relations pertaining to film. Landreth rewound to a moment in 2001 when China was about join the WTO: The greatest sticking point between Beijing and Washington wasn't the terms relating to grain or heavy machinery or high-tech components, but how many Hollywood movies would be allowed into China each year, as confirmed by two lead trade negotiators, one from the U.S. and one from China. "Why? Because movies sell an image of the way we live, who we are and how we do business. Movies are America's greatest selling tool. For the next 11 years, only 20 imported films were allowed to recoup a significant share of their ticket sales. Most were from Hollywood.”
Fast forward to February of this year, when "the unthinkable happened," Landreth observed. Xi Jinping, China's next president, was in Hollywood to break the news, along with DreamWorks Animation’s Jeffrey Katzenberg, the man behind the
Kung Fu Panda movies, and U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden. They announced three major developments:
1) China would raise the number of imported films allowed to share a piece of their sales to 34 each year, up from the previous limit of 20 films.
2) China would raise the percentage of sales that would flow back to copyright holders to 25%, up from the previous average of 15%.
3) China would welcome DreamWorks to Shanghai to build a studio with three state-run media investment funds, so that Katzenberg and his new Chinese friends could work together to co-produce
Kung Fu Panda 3 in China and begin to transfer some of the time-tested expertise that has made Hollywood executives the greatest salesmen of the American dream for the last 100 years.
Han Sanping, chairman of China Film Group (China's film monopoly importer), would receive the 2012 China Visionary of the Year Award, and Lewis Coleman, president and CFO of DreamWorks Animation, would accept the 2012 U.S. Visionary of the Year Award later in the day at the U.S.-China Film Summit gala dinner. Landreth credited Han, "without whom none of these developments would be possible," and called him “the 21st-century incarnation of Louis B. Meyer, Darryl Zanuck and Harvey Weinstein combined...with Chinese characteristics."
Landreth then asked: Who will be the next independent distributors, other than China Film Group? "This will be especially important for those studios which were served a letter of inquiry this spring by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission asking that they make transparent their business dealings in China and dealings with China Film Group." This is a question even Han's colleagues thought he might be facing before the press in the U.S. Fortunately, Han did not have to face tough questions that night, since the press was not invited to the gala dinner.
Landreth went on to emphasize the positive. "China wants movies of its own that will tell the world about the Chinese and the Chinese dream, whatever that may turn out to be. I, for one, encourage the pursuit. Chinese movies that suffered effects of strong censorship just plain bored me and almost everybody I know, both Chinese and expat. Chinese movies that reflect independent voices helped make my life in China exciting.”
Landreth posed more questions for his panel and audience, most not expected to be answered by the end of the Summit: Do co-productions make sense? Will Hollywood filmmakers submit their work to China's censors? Will China manage to make films that can attract overseas audiences?
After viewing a video of the gala dinner at Asia Society, we can report that the message from Han was upbeat. Han said that the rapid growth of the Chinese film market is even exceeding his own expectations, with box-office gross up 40% from the same period last year. He predicted that China would be a large film production county, and also a large film consuming country. Things after the highly anticipated 18th National Congress of the Party can only be better, and can only be more open.
Unfiltered Advice
"Globalization of Talent" was the second panel, moderated by Stephen Saltzman, partner at Loeb & Loeb, and Janet Yang, film producer and cultural ambassador.
The most candid and colorful panelist was Pang Hong of Kylin Network (Beijing) Movie & Culture Media Co. and producer for Ning Xia Film Studio, best known for his
Painted Skin movies.
Pang shocked the audience by declaring that Gong Li (star of
Raise of Red Lantern) is “outdated” because of her age, adding Americans’ most admired and iconic Asian names like Chow Yun-fat, Jackie Chan, even Jet Li, to that list. The Chinese market is a youth market, he explained. "When Painted Skin released in 2008, I went out and did my own investigation. By then, the average age of the Chinese film audience was 23.6; when my
Painted Skin 2 was in theatres this year, the Chinese audience's average age already lowered to 21.3. They love young actors and actresses. I used Zhou Xun, Chen Kun and Donnie Yen for
Painted Skin 1, but for
Painted Skin 2 I no longer used Donnie Yen. Instead, I added new elements, I added Yang Min, Feng Shaofeng. It was my judgment according to the market.”
Both Yang and Pang echoed, "The market is very cruel." Pang continued, “Of course, Chinese-American cooperation is quite different, but we want to honestly inform our American friends about the Chinese market."
Having earned the title "King of Box Office for July" for his movie, Pang has indeed something to say about the market. The producer told the audience that he started humble and worked all the way up. Coming from the state-owned film studio Ningxia, he understands film censorship and policy. “My
Painted Skin 2 broke 15 Chinese box-office records and became the highest box-office film of all time. I only serve two people: my investors and my audience.” The audience applauded.
According to data from EntGroup and
China Film News, action fantasy
Painted Skin 2 earned over 720 million yuan (roughly $115 million) in the first month after its June 28 opening in China. However, like an elephant in the room, it's hardly a secret that in China July and August are designated as "domestic film protection months.” That means that foreign movies are not allowed to be programmed and screened in theatres during that period. This is not a business decision made by theatre owners, but by a state agency. The reality in China is that a movie theatre owner or a cinema chain is able to program any domestic films on their own schedule, but for foreign films, programming is subject to approval and ultimately controlled by the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television. Although the practice was relaxed after Sept. 1, films like
The Dark Knight Rises, The Amazing Spider-Man and
Prometheus were dumped in the same post-summer slot, forcing these Hollywood blockbusters to cannibalize one another at the box office. The Chinese audience was not necessarily going to see the protected movies during the summer months, fed up with watching similar action movies. Ultimately they chose one, but not two or three to watch. It is not hard to surmise that had Hollywood movies been allowed to screen in the month of July, the box office of Pang's movie would have been lower, though still decent.
Here again, the sticking point. As the number of imported movies entering into China nearly doubles, having them disappear from the screen during the two most profitable months makes things a wash.
As Tom McLain, chairman of Asia Society Southern California, declared in his opening remarks, "Hollywood and China are a perfect match, but not an easy marriage."
Pang declared that his next step is cooperation with Americans. Although the China market is getting bigger and bigger, Chinese film production quality is still in its beginning stages, "a very, very low level" compared to Hollywood productions which represents the peak of world quality. Pang said he was eager to learn American technology and standardized industry procedures, as well to understand American laws, co-production procedures, international marketing and production management. Step by step, then we can begin to have real cooperation, he declared.
Pang also touted his next small China-U.S. co-production with a budget of "only $6 million." 60% in English and 40% in Chinese, offering Chinese gourmet food and beautiful women.
Pang alarmed the audience and the moderators' American sensibilities by attributing the fast-developing Chinese film market mainly to piracy of American movies. "The youth watched a lot of pirated Hollywood DVDs, and saw even more movies after China joined the WTO. Therefore, they are very familiar with American stars…. I always tell people in China that the Chinese audience is growing up watching Hollywood movies, nurtured by Hollywood sound and light, action and special effects. You can choose to call it 'nurturing' (the nice word), or 'polluting’ (the bad word). He or she is already used to such production quality and value, special effects, an epic sense, and suddenly you make a Chinese movie—how possible is it to have good box office? No matter how he looks at it, he would still feel it is a country movie, a provincial movie."
Pang believes there are ways to merge Chinese A-list talent with American talent by choosing the right roles and the right stories for them. While Chinese A-listers are willing to take smaller parts to work with Hollywood, he encourages American film professionals to go to China, but earning Chinese yuan rather than American dollars. "Together, we collaborate and make money everywhere in the world. "
Also on the panel were Larry Galper of Creative Artists Agency; Andrew Ooi, president, Echelon Talent Management, and David Unger, VP, International Creative Management.
New Faces of Investors
The third panel, “Investments in U.S.-China Co-productions: Meet the Chinese Investors," was moderated by Bennett Pozil, executive VP, East West Bank, and Peter Shiao, CEO of Orb Media Group. The panel included six Chinese investors—three women, Liu Yuan, co-chairman, China Mainstream Media NFC; Zhao Yifang, president, Huace Media, and Ivy Zhong, vice chairman, Galloping Horse, and three men, Jeff Lin, managing director, Strategic Bang Group; Zhang Zhao, CEO, LeVision Pictures, and Wang Lifeng, partner, Wuxi Jinyu Investment Management Corp. Most of them are bilingual. Each investor had only three minutes to tell about who they are and what they do. The panel agreed to let the ladies speak first.
Zhong told the audience that Galloping Horse is a very big film company in China, with many Hollywood collaborations. "We read more Hollywood co-production scripts than Chinese local scripts. We are good at finance. That is why we were able to buy Digital Domain [the visual-effects company co-founded by James Cameron] within such a short period of time. We believe Chinese special effects are the weakest link. With increasing demand for special effects in film production—for instance, Ang Lee's
Life of Pi was 70% special effects—15 of the 20 highest box-office grossers [utilized] Digital Domain. Now we are able to use Digital Domain to invest in co-production.”
As a contrast, Huace's model is different, as a publicly traded company in China. It produces 600 hours of TV drama series a year. In terms of quantity and quality, Zhao Yifang said, "We are considered number one in China.” The company is looking for international co-productions of TV drama series, such as Chinese stories, and productions with multi-language versions. They are also interested in getting into film production, even developing their own cinema chain. Added Zhao, with Zejiang provincial government support and SARFT's policy support, the first International Film and TV Culture Industrial Park has been approved.
Zhang Zhao of LeVision Pictures was one of the producers of the hit
The Expendables 2. Educated in New York, he was the only producer/investor among the panel expressing interest in producing independent films.
Closing words
"When bees are in the process of seeking honey, what happens? Pollination happens," Peter Shiao declared, explaining the inspiration for the U.S.-China Film Summit. "When people seek to make films, they make culture, and culture influences people. In order to succeed in Hollywood and China, the hottest place on Earth, they have to cross many borders, overcome language barriers, political barriers, logistic barriers, regulatory barriers, a lot of time zones, a lot of sleepless nights...”
Keping Qiu may be reached at kepingqiu@gmail.com.